Curse

Akuma · Mar 01, 2008, 11:50 AM // 11:50

longasc is terrible, rhanoct ur gud

Angelic Upstart · Mar 01, 2008, 12:22 PM // 12:22

A good player is one who adapts over time, learns what is good and bad and tries to play as a team, a bad player is one who does not adapt and continually uses the same shitty skills despite repeated attempts to help him out, for example someone who likes to Frenzy away whilst Spiteful Spirit, or spirit shackles are on him

The question is somewhat ambiguous though..

Turtle222 · Mar 01, 2008, 01:45 PM // 13:45

Bad Players:

Do not adapt

are not nice

feel a game allows them to show their deep perverted, ugly side

like porridge *yuck*

Alex the Great · Mar 01, 2008, 01:48 PM // 13:48

bad players are like terrorists:

they could be anywhere, even in your party,
and they ruin everything for the rest of us.

anyone could be a bad player

Master Knightfall · Mar 01, 2008, 02:07 PM // 14:07

A bad player is one who thinks if it ain't on wiki then it's not any good. A bad player uses cookie cutter builds and think they are in godmode. lol A bad player is one who puts down an abstract build they have never seen just because it's not on wiki or is unothorodoxed without even trying it first. A bad player are the majority who post like they have some kind of inherent rank and knowledge about the game even though they've only played it a couple of months. A bad player is usually an igmo.

Holly Herro · Mar 01, 2008, 02:14 PM // 14:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abedeus

Bad player is either a noob (right definition) or a person that has no skill, a newbie (bad definition).

Noob is someone that uses a bad build and doesn't want to change it, no matter how politely or well people will try to convince him. He thinks that defense = offense in PvP or uses an Ursan in pve.

Newbie is or is not using a bad build/uses it wrong, but if he doesn't know how to use it, yet he knows that he's bad and wants to improve. He also knows Ursan is not good for pve.

Ursan is an effecient build.

Wait, what am I saying build. I mean skill.

Ursan is not a bad skill. It is a cheap skill. Requires not much effort/none.

Terraban · Mar 01, 2008, 03:05 PM // 15:05

People who refuse help from an assassin with 15k Kurzick armor for Vizunah Square mission because "assassins suck".

Issac · Mar 01, 2008, 04:39 PM // 16:39

People who don't know what their doing and still don't listen to you when you try to tell them :S.

quickmonty · Mar 01, 2008, 04:52 PM // 16:52

Anyone who thinks he is good just because he has 15K armor.

genofreek · Mar 01, 2008, 05:54 PM // 17:54

Pretty much anyone who sucks at the game, in PvE or PvP, and when you try to help them out they give you a long list of things they've accomplished. Like "Maybe Rebirth isn't the best thing to put on an ele hero..." "SCREW U I GOT PROT OF CANTHA USING THAT BILD AND ALSO I BEAT ABADDON AND DID KORMIR /rank /rank /rank" Especially when they end it with a passive-aggressive "but w/e".

As if it makes them better players.

Snow Bunny · Mar 01, 2008, 06:48 PM // 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terraban

People who refuse help from an assassin with 15k Kurzick armor for Vizunah Square mission because "assassins suck".

Armor says nothing about your skill.

That's why people from [eF] parade around with fow and gold capes; you really think they're good players?

No, they just farm like crazy.

Johnny_Chang · Mar 01, 2008, 07:11 PM // 19:11

[skill]frenzy[/skill] + [skill]mending[/skill]

HawkofStorms · Mar 01, 2008, 07:59 PM // 19:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

Armor says nothing about your skill.

That's why people from [eF] parade around with fow and gold capes; you really think they're good players?

No, they just farm like crazy.

I think you are all missing Terraban's point. He's wearing KURZICK armor in VIZNUAH SQUARE. He's going back to help a guild mate, etc beat a mission he's already beaten, but is being rejected because some bad player thinks
a) assassins suck
b) doesn't even realize that this guy has clearly already beaten this mission before, and therefore knows it fairly well.

Sparks Dawnbringer · Mar 01, 2008, 09:44 PM // 21:44

Jetdoc you got it right!

Zahr Dalsk · Mar 01, 2008, 09:45 PM // 21:45

Bad player -> someone who ran Balanced in HA and got beaten by Spiritway dozens of times before the nerf, and called it a bad build, despite being beaten by it so many times.

Oh, wait, my bad. That was the definition of an idiot.

anonymous · Mar 01, 2008, 09:56 PM // 21:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terraban

People who refuse help from an assassin with 15k Kurzick armor for Vizunah Square mission because "assassins suck".

Sorry but having 15k armor doesn't make you good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

b) doesn't even realize that this guy has clearly already beaten this mission before, and therefore knows it fairly well.

Who says he didn't get help from someone else to beat the mission? I'm not saying he did but it is a possibility, after all he is going there to help someone else. Would the person he is helping qualify as good at that mission if he had to get help to beat it?

genofreek · Mar 01, 2008, 10:42 PM // 22:42

I guess you could assume he ebayed his amber and hired runners, but I think the better assumption is that the guy knows what he's doing.

Plenty of sins blow, but there are quite a few who understand the class and make it work.

Thorondor Port · Mar 01, 2008, 10:57 PM // 22:57

I feel everytime I play im only getting better.

(or at least not worse)

Tyla · Mar 01, 2008, 11:11 PM // 23:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny_Chang

[skill]frenzy[/skill] + [skill]mending[/skill]

Please remove Frenzy from that list.

BigDave · Mar 01, 2008, 11:11 PM // 23:11

IMO there is more than one type of bad player. People with a bad attitude, while they may be quite skilled at playing the game they just come across as arseholes. People who refuse to take advice and insist that their skills/tactics are perfect, even when they're obviously far from it. People who refuse to play their role in a team and constantly make things more difficult for everyone else. People who are just out there to annoy others. People who refuse to take a certain class of character into any group because they stereotype.

A good player however is pretty much the opposite of the above. They will learn from others, take advice when it's good, be polite, be willing to run various team setups and give something a try, learn to play their role in a team/listen to instructions. Players like these are usually the ones who end up helping others further down the line.

In my experience anyway.